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Justin Pearson in conversation with Giles Sibbald on I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee

Justin Pearson in conversation with Giles Sibbald on I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee

Season 15 Episode 2 www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com/podcast The opening paragraph of Justin Pearson’s first book “From The Graveyard of the Arousal Industry” tells a story of how, when his mother had just given birth to him, that another new mother asked if she wanted to swap babies – her Frank for Justin. I’m not sure that JP himself is sure of the truth of that story, but hey, we live in a world where fewer and fewer people, certainly in government, media and other esteemed corporations, give fewer fucks about whether they tell the truth, so I kinda feel that it’s my turn to say that doesn’t matter if this story is true or not. Whatever…it almost feels like it could have been a pre-cursor or metaphor for his life where weird shit – good, bad, absurd and indifferent and everything else you can define as weird - often finds a way to his front door. There are just way too many stories for even my brain to compute, but I guarantee that reading each of his four books will make you look at your own life, and, afterwards, perhaps the temptation to buy that latest AI infested fridge freezer appliance might be met with a little less enthusiasm. Or perhaps you’ll just think Fuck That and crack on and buy it. Who knows, the world is very unpredictable. Talking of which, for me it’s the unpredictability of what’s gonna emerge from Justin’s open-minded creativity that gives him such a unique, positive energy. You can’t predict what he’ll be cooking up next and who with – maybe he can’t either perhaps because that creativity comes from instinct - but you know that it’s going to be exciting and you know that you will want to experience it, be part of it, whatever. Dig in to this with one of the world's most subversive creatives and wonderful humans. I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste
Neeraj Kane in conversation with Giles Sibbald on I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee

Neeraj Kane in conversation with Giles Sibbald on I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee

Season 14 Episode 10 www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com/podcast I remember starting an Arts Lab a few years ago – just before Covid started actually - with a group of people here in London, based roughly around the counter-culture arts labs of the 1960’s – Jim Haynes was the main guy behind that movement. The idea was to bring together people who wanted to challenge the corporitisation of the arts, draw, socialise, talk about culture, put on cultural events or fuck around. I wanted to be a part of it but I didn’t know why. I mean had terrible insecurities about my ability to draw, sketch or paint…even as a classically trained cellist I had terrible imposter syndrome about being a musician. Probably explains why I petulantly packed it in… At the first Arts Lab meeting, It was Youth from Killing Joke who said something that has always stuck with me and that was “the first thing you need to do is call yourself an artist, forget everything else”. I struggled with this – particularly with the whole identity of who I was. I certainly didn’t feel like a creative. Even now doing my own graphic design, I feel like a bit of a fake – especially when I compare myself to others - but I am getting better. Of course, Youth was right. Allowing yourself that self-affirmation is really the start of your self-belief journey. Neeraj Kane is so synonymous with, and important to, the hardcore scene and I was excited to find out if he has faced these issues and how he has navigated them through his life. His musical footprint can’t be overstated. Every band he’s been in - like The Hope Conspiracy, The Suicide File, Hesitation Wounds, Godcollider - has produced music that is so incredibly potent and addictive in its structure and melody and the absolute precision of its attack. I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste
Paula Lombardo & Dave Lombardo in conversation with Giles Sibbald on I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee

Paula Lombardo & Dave Lombardo in conversation with Giles Sibbald on I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee

Season 14 Episode 9 www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com/podcast Allen Saunders was an American writer and cartoonist who once said “Life is what happens to us while we are making other plans”. It was later popularised by John Lennon in his song, Beautiful Boy. Saunders first said this in 1957 and I guess how I see this is that many of us still spend time planning ahead, creating goals and objectives, trying to weed out uncertainty, only for that uncertainty to keep coming back, those unexpected things to happen which can derail our plans – either for better or for worse. If I think of a few things that have really changed my life (outside of my kids), they came about by chance, I couldn’t have predicted them or planned for them. They just happened. Like when I first discovered punk rock – when I was 11 or 12, my mum and dad’s neighbour, with no real prompting, handed me a compilation with Judy Is A Punk on it and that was it – the Ramones changed my life….and not always for the good my dad would have said Or how my parents starting to get ill a few years ago was a completely unexpected catalyst for me to get back into playing the cello. Never thought it would happen. Serendipity, synchronicity, karma, energy…. how these things work together to open our mind to new things, to new ways of doing things, to new people, new ideas, really interests me, and only makes me firmer in the belief that our mindset is the most important asset we have for grasping these encounters and shaping who we are. So, with their excellent second album as Venamoris imminent – it’s called To Cross or To Burn - I was thrilled to welcome Paula and Dave Lombardo and they very kindly indulged me in my incoherent ramblings. This is a really beautiful chat about their own tales of taking chances, the unexpected, self-belief, instinct, and their life journeys both individually and together. I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste
Gail Ann Dorsey in conversation with Giles Sibbald on I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee

Gail Ann Dorsey in conversation with Giles Sibbald on I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee

Season 14 Episode 8 www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com Whilst conducting my meticulous research for Gail….I was taken back to 1980 - my year of transition that was painful, perplexing, exciting, scary – a tussle between my heavily Top of The Pops Top 40 oriented collection, my classical cello playing and a new, emerging, Through The Looking Glass world of punk, post-punk and hardcore. Not easy bedfellows for 12 year old me, I can tell you. One of the songs in that struggle was Xanadu by Olivia Newton-John and Electric Light Orchestra. I think that the new punk crowd that I was gravitating towards would have sent me much further than Coventry had they known that this record was in my collection, such were the no cross-genre rules. So what does this rather tedious story have with today’s episode? Well, it’s as tenuous as you’ll have come to expect. After growing up adoring her music, Gail holds the accolade of and standing on stage with Olivia Newton-John and a huge orchestra playing Xanadu in front of thousands of genuine fans. This connection, however tenuous, feels in some way serendipitous, and actually rather glorious in a way that only music can be. This is just one part of an incredible, pioneering – and I don’t use that word loosely - life journey that’s led to three solo albums and a whole raft of collaborations with people like Lenny Kravitz, Gwen Stefani, Tears For Fears, Gang of Four, Boy George, The The and, of course…. David Bowie. Gail Ann Dorsey - a wonderful songwriter, composer, bass player with a voice to die for and wonderful human. I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste
Sophie Jamieson in conversation with Giles Sibbald on I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee

Sophie Jamieson in conversation with Giles Sibbald on I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee

Season 14 Episode 7 www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com Before I started this podcast, I was kinda rudderless. Didn’t know what I was doing with my life. When this idea came up, the feeling was “Who will want to listen to me talking about mindset, about my worldview, blah blah blah”… I was dragged into doing it…my self-confidence and self-belief were pretty low. I’ve talked to amazing artists, many of whom, with incredible bravery, bare the inner sanctuary of their own mind through their music and, in particular, their lyrics. So, here we are: 4 years into this podcast and I’ve learnt so much about myself. it’s been incredibly cathartic for me to have these conversations, not least it’s helped me face my fears and it’s forced me to face myself. There are still those moments when the self-belief looks at me and goes “Really?’. I think that the world is incredibly complex, uncertain and volatile. Definitive answers are so much harder to come by, reality is challenged, answers to big questions cannot be condensed into one sentence soundbites, which is what our feudal tech overlords demand from us. I know that there may never be answers to some questions, where things are out of my control, where I need to challenge an outdated definition of perfection, yet accepting this in how I live my life can be challenging, especially as I get older and I become more risk averse in some aspects of my life, yet paradoxically willing to take more risk in other aspects. As I write this, Sophie Jamieson is about to release her second and utterly beautiful album called I STILL WANT TO SHARE, which, to me, captures this complexity and uncertainty of our world and pitches it against our innate human needs for simplicity and certainty. Our chat here about her album and her life raises some fascinating observations. @sophiejamiesonmusic I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

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