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Season 12 Episode 3 with Lizzie No

Season 12 Episode 3 with Lizzie No

I met up with my old friend John Robb over the UK May bank holiday weekend. He was in London talking about his birthday, sorry life and career (!). For those who don’t know John, he formed The Membranes in the early 80’s and he’s an author whose writing about music and the future I admire hugely – and his talk was called “Do You Believe In The Power of Rock N Roll?”. So, do I? Well, in a lot of ways, yes. Music, art, poetry and dance remain the number one threats to the establishment and the elite. But sadly, in my opinion, the music establishment is just as big a threat to music and artists. I’m not talking about the entirely fucked capitalist model – although no, fuck that, actually I am when I heard that UMG are proposing to make a performance related payout to their CEO Lucian Grainge of £119million – capitalism is at the very core of everything that is evil in the world – but I’m also talking more overtly about some of the less talked about things like genres (and yes, I know, I myself talk about genre a lot). Putting a band in a genre has been happening forever and we could talk about it being a lazy way for the industry to market music – which it is – but I think there are much more malignant effects of using genre as a way to compartmentalise playlists and market big label artists. With categorisation comes all sorts of social constructs – and sometimes the subtle ones are the most harmful - that are essentially used as an anti-freedom power tool to keep people in their lanes – I’m thinking ways to dress, subjects to speak about, instruments to play, and the worst of all….who they deem allowable to actually play the music. For example, whatever you think musically of Beyonce’s album Cowboy Carter, it seems clear to me that the gatekeeping that, back in the day, excluded black musicians from a ‘genre’ that they created ,still exists – and there ain’t anything subtle about that, it’s rooted in racism. I don’t remember Kid Rock for being subjected to any such gatekeeping when he went “country”. Lizzie No @lizzieno has written, sung, played on and produced three world class records, her latest being Halfsies which fucks off those genres and is just a fabulous piece of work. She's also an activist - the subjects above are close to her heart - and fabulous human. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste
Season 12 Episode 2 with Diana Burkot

Season 12 Episode 2 with Diana Burkot

My first experience of censorship in music came with the battle between the Dead Kennedys and Tipper Gore’s PMRC (remember the “Parental Advisory Explicit Content” stickers?) which culminated in the obscenity trial in 1985/6 over the artwork for DK’s record Frankenchrist. I don’t know if anyone remembers but the board members of the PMRC were a bunch of white power brokers funded by Coors Beer, who also just happened to be big supporters of….. Ronald Reagan. The elite keeping the lid on challengers to their power. Some things never change do they? Anyway, forward 25/6 years or so to Moscow and 4 of the founding members of the art collective Pussy Riot perform their inspired Punk Prayer inside the Cathedral of Christ The Saviour. It’s still one of the best and most effective pieces of protest performance art that I’ve seen, although at great personal cost as 3 out of the 4 performers were arrested and convicted. Separation of church and state, censorship, state violence, state control, repression of equality, denial of intersectionality….and still the elite, the despots and the sycophants fear art and artists more than anyone since feudalism, capitalism and all that good stuff began. Diana Burkot is a founding member of Pussy Riot, a multi disciplinary musician and a committed activist. Her music project away from Pussy Riot is called Rosemary Loves A Blackberry @rosemarylovesablackberry and it is a glorious kaleidoscope of performance art that brings together diverse instruments, beats, imagery and lyrics that open your mind to eclectic and experimental interpretations and is at home with any industrial die hards, synth lovers or lovers of the darker, magical sounds from the other side….. It's a huge honour to have her on the show. https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste
Season 12 Episode 1 with Amanda Mac

Season 12 Episode 1 with Amanda Mac

@badmaryband If I were to create a mixtape (it’d have to be an old school cassette cos that’s probably the last time I made one!) for Amanda and her music life, it’d probably open with The Undertones’ Family Entertainment with the classic line “Got To…Keep it In the Family”. I mention family not so much to talk endlessly about the quite rare band structure of her band, Bad Mary – in her words “a band family and family band” - but to segué clumsily into some of the questions that I have for myself about where friendships and family relationships fit into today’s lifestyle such as…. Do we make friends the same way as we used to do? We have the largest number of generations alive at the same time – do we bridge these generations? Do we make enough time for them? Do we have friends for life? Do we appreciate friends and family? How do they impact our wellbeing? What role do virtual friendships play? This is a very beautiful conversation with Amanda and I'm grateful for her openly talking about some difficult subjects. Make a brew, hit the sofa and enjoy! https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste
Season 11 Episode 10 with Saint Saviour

Season 11 Episode 10 with Saint Saviour

You know when you hear a song or a collection of songs that literally make you shiver? Songs that could make you cry at how effortlessly beautiful they are. Another thing that interests me is the neuroscience of how some pieces of music can transport me to a time, a place, an older version of me, a perhaps as yet unseen version of me, how they can seem like my constant companion that’s seen my life, the very depths of me, the heights of me, how I can go back to them and they’re still my friend, never my enemy, still those companions of unwavering devotion, years down the line. *Cue tumbleweed* Well, Saint Saviour (Becky Jones) is doing all of this again with her brand new album which is called Sunseeker, building on In The Seams and Tomorrow Again – two masterpieces in my book. For one thing, it’s got horns and anything that’s got horns in it is good in my book. More than that, it’s got her signature chord progressions and harmonies that just tie me up in knots. So good. @oursaintsaviour #saintsaviour #groovearmada #beckyjones #billryderjones @BillRyderJonesMusic https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste
Season 11 Episode 9 with Johnny Manchild

Season 11 Episode 9 with Johnny Manchild

What’s been intriguing me today? Reality. What is it? Is there “a” reality or is it all subjective and determined by our own perception, prediction and interpretation. I think it's a word - like so many others - that has been hijacked – you see it used in order to dogmatically defend belief systems or stances and this plays into our susceptibility to certain narratives – we hear that phrase “well this is my reality” at the expense of those who are experiencing things in a very different way. It’s a massive subject that’s massively out of my depth but I think that when we talk about what each other has experienced, we need to show empathy and understanding at how we make our best predictions for what is going on around us. The great thing about our brains though is how we draw on past experiences to create something new – I guess you’d call it imagination - and Johnny Manchild is using bucketloads of imagination in how he writes, plays and presents his music. His wonderful band, Johnny Manchild and the Poor Bastards - like the bastard prodigy of Joe Jackson, Electric Light Orchestra, Trail of Dead and The Vines - have a new album out called Rapture Waltz and it’s a belter. I love how it draws on these apparently disparate influences to produce music that is as good as it is individual and defies categorisation - the scourge of how society has wired us to think. @JohnnyManchild #johnnymanchild https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste
Season 11 Episode 8 with SkyDxddy

Season 11 Episode 8 with SkyDxddy

As regular listeners will be painfully aware, I’m no fan of genres. I can hear the groans already….here he goes again getting on his soapbox…yes, well, you know you gotta reinforce the message, right! I do believe that genres are obsolete to the point of being dangerous, created by an industry to keep people in their lanes, to reinforce “rules” and stereotypes of who should be playing what music - and to make it easier and cheaper to market. The good thing is that there are far more musicians who are blurring those old genre lines, bringing in diverse influences and techniques to create new sonics that makes it difficult to put music in those restrictive boxes. Ok, soapbox over! @SkyDxddy has just released their latest single called Why Do I Stay? And it’s quite different sonically to their previous work. What’s not different though, is the importance and value of the message - that every experience and every impact is at once unique and relatable to many of us and that each story deserves to be told and heard – I believe that’s what humanity should be about. Now having got on my soapbox about genre, I’m gonna get kicked off it, cos Sky has created a new genre - trauma core – although to be fair, trauma core to me is not about the musical style, it’s about survivors being empowered to tell your own story in your own way surrounded in your own blanket of safety and to feel the power of that human connection to not just survive but to create a movement of solidarity with others who are marginalised, misunderstood and suffering. And it’s encumbent on us to listen to those voices with empathy, love and understanding. #skydxddy https://www.iwannajumplikedeedee.com I Wanna Jump Like Dee Dee is the music podcast that does music interviews differently. Giles Sibbald talks to musicians, DJ’s and producers about how they use an experimental mindset in every part of their lives. - brought to you from the mothership of the experimental mindset™ - swirl logo and art by Giles Sibbald - doodle logo and art by Tide Adesanya, Coppie and Paste

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